Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 15:40 EET From: Hussam Eassa Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2169] Re: Sb16/cd-rom memory loss! On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Jimmy Wan wrote: > On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Hussam Eassa wrote: > > > On Sat, 25 Mar 1995, Jimmy Wan wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 25 Mar 1995, Hussam Eassa wrote: > > > > > > > > If it makes any difference, I am using a Sound Blaster 16. Can't afford > > > > > a third soundcard yet. Besides, the one with the cache works. The one > > > > > without a cache doesn't. > > > > > > > > I did the experiment using a Sound Blaster 16 also. No problems. Please > > > > don't misunderstand. I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I'm simply > > > > saying that in the world of PCs, what works on one hardware combination > > > > does not necessarily work on another. That was the whole point of my > > > > cautions about memory managers, smartdrv etc. > > > > > > Well, what do you have in your setup? Mine won't work without an EMM. > > > > AMI Super Voyager III VLB motherboard, Intel 486DX/2-66SL, Diamond SpeedStar > > Pro VLB, SB-16 Value Edition (P220, IRQ 1&5, DMA 1&5 Midi Port 300), > > Roland RAP-10 (Port 330, IRQ 11 DMA 6&7), Turtle Beach Multisound (Port > > 290, IRQ 10, D800h-DFFFh). > > > > BTW, I could not think of any reason why it *shouldn't* work on your > > system and I was guessing that maybe DOS version has something to do with > > it. That is why I mentioned PCDOS in the first place. Maybe someone on > > this list can tell us if they were successful running Cubic with a clean > > boot and MSDOS 6.22. I would be very interested in the response. > > I got it to work with a clean boot, but not with Himem. > Remember, MSDOS Himem.sys is different than the PCDOS version. Also, the system kernels (io.com, msdos.com and command.com) are different from IBM's (ibmbio.com ibmdos.com and command.com). All of which may or may not be the reason for your experience. -- ======================== Sam eassa@earth.execpc.com ======================== ----------------- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 19:40 EET From: outlandm@netland.nl (Joost Baaij) Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2171] RE: When the Heavens Fall >Thing is, I don't own a GUS yet. Can't watch them if they won't run. Too bad it won't run. You have a vlb motherboard? I've heard that the gus's irq's collide with the vesa irq's. Anyway. Gus is one hell of a soundcard, but if a better one comes out (even a cl card) I'll probably buy that one. Until then, gus is my premium choice for playing mods and stuff. Joost. ----------------- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 19:39 EET From: outlandm@netland.nl (Joost Baaij) Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2170] Re: Sb16/cd-rom memory loss! > Maybe someone on >this list can tell us if they were successful running Cubic with a clean >boot and MSDOS 6.22. I would be very interested in the response. I am. Gus irq5 dma5 port220. Works like a charm. By the way, I switched to xtc-play 4.0. xtc-play is like 40k big, loads modules in the gus (it's a gus-only player) and is like, fast and stuff. I really prefer it over cubic since it takes no time to load the player (well, it takes time, but loading 40k into mem is nothing compared to cubic's 600k or so). I can even run xtc-play in the shell of my bbs system (no, not in a dv window but in the shell) and it works just great! But you cl guys can't use it (he he he). Joost. ----------------- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 19:41 EET From: outlandm@netland.nl (Joost Baaij) Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2172] Re: Sb16/cd-rom memory loss! >Everyone agree that Memmaker sucks? I manually optimized my memory and >got about 50K more than memaker could fine. Definately. I have multiple configs and memmaker screws my autoexec and my config up everytime I run it. QEMM actually *sees* the multiple configs. and acts accordingly. Btw, I am running qemm 7.5. (But whenever I want to Windoze i boot with himem.sys only.) Joost. ----------------- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 20:24 EET From: Hussam Eassa Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2173] RE: When the Heavens Fall On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Joost Baaij wrote: > >Thing is, I don't own a GUS yet. Can't watch them if they won't run. > > Too bad it won't run. You have a vlb motherboard? I've heard that the gus's > irq's > collide with the vesa irq's. Saaay What? There is no such thing as a VESA IRQ. The VLB slots run right off the CPU bus and are controlled by the chipset/BIOS. It has nada to do with the ISA IRQs. In fact, I'm running a GUS just fine on a VLB board. > ....... Anyway. Gus is one hell of a soundcard, but if > a better one comes out (even a cl card) I'll probably buy that one. Until > then, gus is my premium choice for playing mods and stuff. > > Joost. > > -- ======================== Sam eassa@earth.execpc.com ======================== ----------------- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 20:31 EET From: Hussam Eassa Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2174] Re: Sb16/cd-rom memory loss! On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Joost Baaij wrote: > > Maybe someone on > >this list can tell us if they were successful running Cubic with a clean > >boot and MSDOS 6.22. I would be very interested in the response. > > I am. Gus irq5 dma5 port220. Works like a charm. How about with just himem.sys? > ............ By the way, I switched to > xtc-play 4.0. xtc-play is like 40k big, loads modules in the gus (it's a > gus-only > player) and is like, fast and stuff. I really prefer it over cubic since it > takes no > time to load the player (well, it takes time, but loading 40k into mem is > nothing compared to cubic's 600k or so). I can even run xtc-play in the > shell of my bbs system (no, not in a dv window but in the shell) and it > works just great! > But you cl guys can't use it (he he he). > It is now confirmed. YOU ARE MEAN :-)) On the other hand, MOD4WIN sounds better on a Turtle Beach than the GUS's Wave driver in Windows. HeHeHeHe. > Joost. > > -- ======================== Sam eassa@earth.execpc.com ======================== ----------------- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 21:06 EET From: Jimmy Wan Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2175] XTC Player On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Joost Baaij wrote: > But you cl guys can't use it (he he he). Humph. ----------------- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 21:13 EET From: Jimmy Wan Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2176] RE: When the Heavens Fall On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Joost Baaij wrote: > >Thing is, I don't own a GUS yet. Can't watch them if they won't run. > > Too bad it won't run. You have a vlb motherboard? I've heard that the gus's > irq's collide with the vesa irq's. Anyway. Gus is one hell of a soundcard, but if > a better one comes out (even a cl card) I'll probably buy that one. Until > then, gus is my premium choice for playing mods and stuff. I think I have only tried the Blue Steel Demo or something and it sucked. In actuality I don't remember if I tried the others. ----------------- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 21:14 EET From: Jimmy Wan Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2177] Re: Sb16/cd-rom memory loss! On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Joost Baaij wrote: > Definately. I have multiple configs and memmaker screws my autoexec and my > config up everytime I run it. QEMM actually *sees* the multiple configs. and > acts accordingly. Btw, I am running qemm 7.5. > (But whenever I want to Windoze i boot with himem.sys only.) I never use DOS Apps from Windoze, but QEMM can free up a lot more memory for running DOS apps under Windoze than anything else out there. ----------------- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 22:00 EET From: outlandm@netland.nl (Joost Baaij) Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2178] Re: XTC Player >> But you cl guys can't use it (he he he). > >Humph. And it features double sound mem! so with "only" 1 mb on your gus you can play 2 mb modules! (kewl). Joost. ----------------- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 23:32 EET From: "Jens Puchert" Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2180] Re: XTC Player In message you write: >>> But you cl guys can't use it (he he he). >> >>Humph. > >And it features double sound mem! so with "only" 1 mb on your gus you can >play 2 mb modules! (kewl). By undersampling them at half the original rate or what? >Joost. Jensi ----------------- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 23:24 EET From: "Jens Puchert" Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2179] Re: Sb16/cd-rom memory loss! In message you write: >On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Joost Baaij wrote: > >> > Maybe someone on >> >this list can tell us if they were successful running Cubic with a clean >> >boot and MSDOS 6.22. I would be very interested in the response. >> >> I am. Gus irq5 dma5 port220. Works like a charm. > >How about with just himem.sys? > >> ............ By the way, I switched to >> xtc-play 4.0. xtc-play is like 40k big, loads modules in the gus (it's a >> gus-only >> player) and is like, fast and stuff. I really prefer it over cubic since it >> takes no >> time to load the player (well, it takes time, but loading 40k into mem is >> nothing compared to cubic's 600k or so). I can even run xtc-play in the >> shell of my bbs system (no, not in a dv window but in the shell) and it >> works just great! >> But you cl guys can't use it (he he he). >> > >It is now confirmed. YOU ARE MEAN :-)) On the other hand, MOD4WIN sounds >better on a Turtle Beach than the GUS's Wave driver in Windows. HeHeHeHe. No question about that, it also sounds better on the AudioTrix Pro. GUS' wave driver sucks ;-) >-- >======================== >Sam >eassa@earth.execpc.com >======================== Jensi ----------------- Date: Mon, 27 Mar 95 00:13 EET From: "Chris Campbell" Subject: [INERTIA-TALK:2181] Re: Source s3m player On Thu, 23 Mar 95 14:31 EET, Joost Baaij wrote: >Yeah, well, Starport is the fc whq, what do you expect? Those guys KNOW. >They just know (although they haven't released something big in quite some >time now). I think they are all quite busy with other things. >Now -correct me if I'm wrong- but I think the entire music area was moved >from Hornet to cdrom.com ! Correct. >The guys at cdrom.com maintain their site even worse than the Hornet guys, >they haven't moved any file out of their incoming dir for about 10 days now. >The listing of the incoming dir was about 13k ... :( We have been very busy with other projects such as our DiskMagazine and our demo for NAiD. It is still Hornet that is in charge of the 2GB drive cdrom.com has given us for our service to the demo community. We are in the process of re-organizing but we are trying to get on the files more often. You should notice a vast improvement already. Chris Campbell * Port Hawkesbury * Nova Scotia * Canada IRC: Popcorn * Hornet / Epinicon / TraxWeekly -----------------